Friday, 30 December 2011

Mumbaikar...Delhiites...

              Now this topic had to come. It was long due. Inspired by the famous 'Mumbaikar,Punekar, Nagpurkar' by P Deshpande and the fact the I am a true Mumbaikar whose born and brought up in the city of Mumbai but my Native is Delhi, I feel myself in a good position to write this. Also I just love talking on this topic. Something tells me I can write a book on this topic, so beware, this might be a lengthy blog.

            Before I start talking, Let me clear some facts. The blog is dedicated to the people of the 2 places and I will not talk or consider anything about politics or infrastructure of the 2 cities. Also when I mean Mumbaikar, I mean WE , the north Indians, South Indians, Gujaratis and Marathis and others who have stayed in this city for long enough to be domiciled as Maharashtrians (There is a difference between a Maharashtrian and a Marathi). Not the Raj Thackeray types but the true Mumbaikars who make the city of Mumbai and same logic applies to Delhiites.

             A person who stays in Mumbai and travels Delhi every year and has all his relatives from that place, I find HUGE differences among the 2 places. Mumbaikars are always busy.No matter what time of the day, what day of the year we are just always busy. On the other hand Delhiites are always free. They always have time for everything in the world. The most recent example was Anna's agitation where there was a low turnout in Mumbai.We are always in a hurry to either catch some train or do something. They are never in a hurry even if it means visiting someone on a deathbed. Ask a Mumbaikar , 'Whats the time?' and 8 out of 10 times he will get irritated that you have wasted his few minutes asking the question. On the other hand, ask a Delhiite for an address, and chances are he will accompany you to the place.The best part is even when they do not know the address, they will tell you something like this ' Yahan se teesra right le lo..Aage ek mandir hai, wahan pooch lena' ( Take the third right and you would find a temple. Ask the person there he can help). They would hardly say I don't know, on the other hand a Mumbaikar might say I don't know even if he knows. Both extremes.

               Time again is Money for Mumbaikars. We catch the same 8:42 AM train daily for years of our life. Then the connecting bus and reach office on time at 9:30. No one bothers wasting time. To the extent that a BEST (Bombay transport bus) Conductor threatens you with the fact that he will stop the bus if you have a verbal argument with him. He knows for sure all the other passengers will support him since they do not want to waste time by getting the bus stopped. Delhi on the other hand is the other extreme. I was travelling in a bus when he took the bus to the petrol station and declared that it will take 20 mins to fill gas. And I was surprised that all got down with no complaints and no hurry.I mean if it was Mumbai, we might have burned the bus for wasting 20 minutes.Speaking of Time,I recently had the luxury to attend a birthday party in Delhi and was invited at 7.00 PM. No one came before 9 PM. Mumbai on the other hand, the party hall is booked till 10 PM for a 7 PM party, so people come at 8 and leave by 9.

             Then again there is the attitude factor. Every Delhiite feels he owns the state. He will talk big and would always be pompous. The 'I can do this' and 'I can do that' types.Far far away from reality.I asked one of my friend here that why do they do that and he explained that it is a cycle. Today you are being a pompous person and people are listening, tomorrow it's his turn to be one and you will listen. Its mutual understanding.The same goes for salaries or earnings. Ask a Mumbaikar his salary and either he refuses to reveal it or will give a low approximate. Ask a Delhiite about it and he will add one zero on the right of the figure and mention it. I mean whom are you kidding man, We belong to the same industry we know the facts.My dad taught me this, that when you talk about finances with a Delhiite, subtract a zero from the right to get the true figure.

               That leads me to something that even Delhiites agree is a problem with them. Its something we call as 'Show-off'. A Mumbaikar would travel in a local train with a plastic bag that might have crores in it. A Delhiite earning in thousands might feel its below his dignity to travel in anything less than Honda City. He may not have the money to buy petrol but having a car is must. And this may not sync but I suddenly remembered that the word QUEUE does not exist in the dictionary of Delhiites. They get surprised to come to Mumbai and see Queues for everything. For a Delhiite, standing in a Queue is for losers.

               I can go On n ON on this Topic. Speak about both and I have hundreds of examples to give. But than I cannot give them all cause I feel I will publish a book on it. :-) So let me keep some for the book. I guess a good debate in the comments section should be expected. Provided Mumbaikars get the time to defend them and Delhiites feel the need to defend themselves to a software guy with no car (Bekaar).

Cheers!

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  1. Buddy....Good contents....and i agree with all the points mentioned for mumbaikars...don't know much about Delhi guys ..but yeah looking at the turnout for Anna in both the cities might prove it...infact I also discussed the same with my friends that "who has time to go for fast and all with Anna in mumbai"....that too on a working day...........anyways...but a good post and i guess everyone will agree of YOU writing on it because you have seen both the sides of cities......i would have loved to start a debate ..but didn't really find any point...may be will comment if someone else starts..(typical mumbaikar :))..

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  2. I found reading the traits of a Mubaikar & a Delhiite on ur blog truely hilarious, although I know they are true. I had a smile on my face towards the end of ur comparision. & with that I just realized that a Mumbaikar sometimes doesnt even have time to smile throughout the day! (since morning I had no reason to smile but ur article managed to bring one:)on my face). The closing was too good. U write good & hope u make it to write a successfull book one day...

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  3. @Umesh: Probably our Delhi crowd did not feel the need to comment so may be we may not get the debare. Thanks for the COmpliments

    @Anonymous: Thanks for the feedback. A smile on someone's face with the blog makes me feel proud of my post.And your comment has highly motivated me. Would have appreciated knowing your name. Thanks again

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    1. In my opinion, every story has multiple versions and one of the important factors governing it is who is telling that story.. I did find the article interesting to some extent and agree with some of the points but one thing is for sure, that the writer wasn't neutral. He had made up his mind prior to writing it. The same article written from a neutral point of view might not come out like this.

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  4. Hey nice blog but I completely disagree with the 3rd paragraph. I have been to Delhi many times and I had a very bad experience with Delhiites. I agree that they will never tell you "I dont know" if you ask them a route or something but they will misguide you so that you land up somewhere else.You cannot trust Delhiites.But Mumbaikar will always help you if they know what you asked and they will not waste your time if they don't know what you asked,they will simply say "I dont know". I love Mumbai and the Cosmopolitan religion here.It is any day better that Delhi.

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    2. I second you. I have hardly seen someone not guiding you for directions in Mumbai, though not sure about Delhi. Ask anyone and they will direct you to the place and it has rarely happened that someone said 'I don't know' for directions in Mumbai.

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    3. Il say..It does happen in Mumbai about 7 out of 10 times

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  5. I'm proud to be a Mumbaikar because i value time, I'm not an unnecessary show off and this city is comparatively much much safer. When I'm in Delhi i can't step out of home after 7pm without being escorted by two males from the family. It's funny, cz in Mumbai 7pm is the beginning of the day - when u leave work n head to party. And the show offness in Delhiites is just beyond me. They can even take a loan to buy new clothes! Whereas, Mumbaikars are as comfortable in Fashion Street slippers as they are in their Jimmy Choos. Delhi is also known as "thagon ki nagri" and if Mumbai is the Financial Capital, Delhi has meticulously earned the title of The Rape Capital. I think that's a fitting close. I rest my case.

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  6. I hardly knw any mumbaikar..and i hvnt visited mumbai or even maharashtra ol my life bt wt i extracted frm dis blog is tht mumbaikars dun hv the term helpful..nd they col it a waste of tym..they r so busy tht they cnt support a person who is fasting for their benefit at d age of 78 yrs..and even critize those who support him..nd at d end..if dis is hw a mumbaikar is den i wud b happy to b born in any part of dis country excpt MAHARASHTRA..

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    1. >>>nd at d end..if dis is hw a mumbaikar is den i wud b happy to b born in any part of dis country excpt MAHARASHTRA..>>>
      By such low thinking and bias attitude expressed in above remarks , everyone knows that finally people like you live and settle in Maharashtra only and still say this isn't good place, that's the reality. !

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    2. And Mr Anonymous doesn't know that MUMBAI is part of Maharashtra not entire Maharashtra

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  7. @Anonymous. I guess you should actually visit Mumbai or know Mumbaikars before coming to conclusions.
    I agree we do not have time and are very busy but that is cause we stay in a city where we have a battle to survive. A struggle to live. And you might agree this struggle is more important than anything. We do not have the luxury of being a political capital that drains all the money from various parts of the country.
    And for helping people, we have instances when during the 26/7 floods people came out of their houses to help random ppl on roads with food and water. M sure if u spend some time in this city ,your thoughts will change.

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  8. i agree that struggle to survive is d most important thing but u have dis misconception of fund flow about delhi mr. kapil gosain d funds which delhi is receiving 4m entire country is not in d common hands but with d people sitting at parliament n mumbai is d financial capital city so acc 2 that delhiites have 2 struggle more as being the financial cap city per capita income f mumbai should b high........but still i would not be saying tat we r struggling alot 2 survive cos we have that habit 4m d day we r born n it doesn't bother us now n we r simply too happy 4 wateva we got 4m our land........acc 2 me either its a delhiite or a mumbaikar no1 is havin spare time in 2days busy schedules n complex lifestyles bt 1 has 2 spare some time n its completely on ur own will........
    i hv always heard dis phrase 'dilli h dilwalo ki' n after readin dis it sounds vry true........
    d diffrence is simply tat kisi ki help karne k liye dil nikalna padta h jo dilli valo ko ache se aata h

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  9. @ Anonymous: There is no misconception about the fund flow cause every other guy in Delhi knows some politician or atleast shows that he knows one :-)

    I agree Dilli dilwaloh ki hai (self proclaimed title)..but inorder to help if you tell people something that is not right, it spoils things more than help. The comments above are witness to it.

    Well the financial per capita income is greater in Mumbai cause its white money. Black money never gets calculated in any financial measures.

    And ofcourse you did not yet comment on the other issues we spoke of against Delhi.So do you agree about them?

    Would love to know your name. The way you called me mr kapil gosain reminds me of someone who used to say that when the person was angry on me :-)

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  10. i am sorry Mr. Gosain i can't disclose my name n neither i am angry on u........i agree to the point of 'show-off' to some extent n there is no place or people in the world who are flawless but what is surprising is that mumbaikars consider their negative traits as positive the only impact ur blog is giving is that 'does mumbaikars have any positive points?' m sure they would b having but ur not able to discribe them properly cos maximum part of the world dont consider being too busy to b a positive trait n more than half of ur blog is on it. last but not the least "if being very straight forward ur feed back on fund flow is simply too kiddish i hope u realise it sooner or later so i would not prefer to comment on it.

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    1. m a college student n yes m busy roaming around wid frnds, goining 4 movies, doing assignments n projects n we hv more places 4 roaming den u all guys
      n abt professionals they might b busy bt when the day start i mean 4m 8pm dey also njoy their life n m witness 4 dat as ma mom dad both r working

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  11. @Anonymous: Really? You want to fight a nameless battle. And Getting personal means you are angry. Not that I mind it.
    Being busy and fighting a battle to survive are different things. We do have a lot of positive trait. But like beauty belongs in the eyes of the beholder, we read and understand what we want to. The comments above talks about the positive points of Mumbai and are spoken by people who have stayed in that city. And hence I said perhaps you should speak after your own experience. What we are saying is straight from the horse's mouth
    And really is the fund flow comment kiddish? Is it not a world known secret? Do we really have an argument on that? Its like arguing if the sun rises from the east.

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  12. Let me first begin by apologizing for having taken this long to comment. Then let me start by saying, as Mumbaikars we are programmed to hate all other cities in India and Delhi more than others. It is just instinctive. When someone says Delhi (or any reference there of) in Mumbai, it is more often than not followed by a few abuses, trashy comments and standing jokes (among other things).
    After having lived in Mumbai for nearly all my life, my view wasn’t that different until recently. Now that I am staying in Pune (another city that we Mumbaikars hate for a multitude of reasons) for most part of the week, and also having stayed in close proximity with Delhiites (and by that I mean the entire north Indian stretch which includes people from UP, Gurgaon, Noida, Chadigarh, Punjab and even parts of Rajasthan) I can say I have a different perspective. They are show-offs. They are late-lateefs. They are proud ( when they have little to be proud of). They are whiners and picky and very hard to please (especially in matters of food). And they keep mentioning Chandni Chowk as if it is some sort of Landmark and should be listed in one of the wonders of the world. I am now curious as what exactly happens in Chandni Chowk with the Paratha Galli, Jalebis in pure desi ghee and other savories. Nothing is ever good enough for them in terms of food. Everything always falls short.
    There a few similarities though between a Mumbaikar and a Delhiite. Both are extremely proud of their roots. Both compare other cities and their people to their own. Both hates any other cities (apart from their own), especially the other. Both cities have huge flaws in infrastructure, law and order and other social parameters, but we love it anyway. A few words from an obscure song which is fitting for both cities
    But it's our town
    Love it anyway
    Come what may
    It's our town
    There are a lot of things I like about Delhiites. They are very friendly. To use a hindi phrase, yaaron ke yaar. They are straight and rude at times (which is a good thing). They know how to celebrate. They know their food (which is a point in my book). And most important thing of all they are extremely good looking, especially the oh so hot girls (no offense to the girls from Mumbai but you know what I mean).
    I would like to end by using two lines from songs which describe both the cities to the hilt. These lines get the essence of what these two cities are truly about. One from a classic and the other from a recent (but very good) song :
    For Mumbai : Aye dil hai mushkil jeena yahan
    Zara hat ke zara bach ke, yeh hai Bombay meri jaan

    For Delhi : Yeh Sehar nahi mehfil hain. Yeh Dilli hain mere yaar

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    1. Very nice reply. Befitting.
      I was born and raised in Delhi and moved to Mumbai for work and have been here since the turn of the century. I love both the places for the people who make it special for me and hardly for anything else.
      Food, women and infrastructure hardly make up the reason why we choose to be in a place. It's more for friends, income and rootedness.
      Nice songs for the cities. Wish people would make some music for the other cities I love in India as well.
      Cheers
      Madhuri

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  13. @harikesh i really like ur comment...ur comment shows dat u knw both the cities truely well...although m a delhiite bt i stil accept al the flaws u mentioned about delhiites... n i completely agree wid the chandani chowk point and yeah delhites r jus crazy for food and the paranthas at parantha wali galli are mouth watering so this can b 1 of the reasons if delhiites mention chandani chowk alot :)
    bt d best part about ur comment was that it was unbiased unfortunately i cant say this about the blog...so kapil if u are actually thinking to write a book harikesh can be a great help cos i don think that u know much about delhi.....
    and once again harikesh ur comment was just awesome n though it was a long comment bt it was so intresting that i wanted to read more :)

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    1. dude we mumbaikars hv more opt4 food den u.......... we r having more no. of khaau galli where we gate ur chandani chowk type food available @very reasonable prices n much testier

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  14. @Anonymous: Harikesh does write well and you should read more of him. I would definitely take his advice for the book but for other things and not the topic content.
    For starters, Harikesh knows them only from last 4 years or so, i Know Delhiites from last 26 years
    Harikesh knows Delhiites outside Delhi, I have seen them in their home. Heard of the phrase, 'Apni galli main toh kutta bhi khud ko sher samajhta hai'
    And to each his own.You can buy his book. The others will buy mine :-)
    And yes like a true Delhiite, you show its easy to be an internet bully commenting anonymously. Ask your name and you hide ur face.

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  15. @Harikesh: Dude. Kya kar raha tha? The post is almost dead.Needed your comment before.
    And I agree to the girls part. But thats all. A delhiite is never straight n rude, he is sweet and stabs the back.Do you really know them enough?
    And they are difficult to please cause they do not appreciate efforts. Another thing I missed in the blog.

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  16. delhi the best....................
    even the sewage lines of delhi is lot much cleaner then what they call "samudra" in mumbai...and also the mumbaikars usually calls a house of mere two rooms a "flat"
    or "bunglow"...ha ha aha haa aha

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    1. was that a joke or a fact???

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    2. mumbaikers dont hv big houses in city it just coz da land problem bt they all r having their big homes n big lands in their native places near mumbai wid big kaajus, mangoes garden... n da main thing iz dat d cost of d flats in mumbai r very high den ur big homes in other cities k n 1 more thing mumbai iz da 2nd largest city in da world dat having high cost of land.........

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  17. ha ha well said..:)

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  18. @ Both anonymous: Normally I do not react to lowly anonymous comments cause they do not deserve..nor does yours..you know why..coz both of you are immature minds who may not be able to even spell mumbai..forget knowing the essence of the city..
    Space is surely a problem cause on an average 32 people from other parts of the country to mumbai..the city still accommodates them with open arms..

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    1. Not when you got shiv Sean goons hitting north Indians including delhites..
      You won't see anything like that in Delhi...

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    2. It is the same where Biharis are beaten by some goons in Delhi..As mentioned it is a problem across the country and so let us not single out one particular place

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  19. What a subject to choose kapil ...i will not be drawn into any controversy but i just love Delhi..so many times our macro views are formed on the basis of micro experiences;so it is futile to debate.

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  20. like your blog..i think i will follow

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  21. Love the balance of subtle humour :)
    I have lived in Mumbai for 15 years and now in Delhi for 3 years. Both have amazing things to offer and some shameful facts to hide. The best one can do is take it with a pinch of salt or sugar which is exactly what this post does. Thanks.

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  22. @Indu @ raindrop: Thanks..
    Like mentioned in the comment, no controversy intended, lets take it with a pinch of salt :-)

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  23. Never been to been to Delhi or know much Delhiites but I do agree about everything you said about the Mumbaikars... :)

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  24. good article kapil ,

    waiting for your book :) will agree with umma for mumbai being safer then delhi for girls .... dont know much about delhi but good to know thru your blog

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  25. Dear Kapil,It looks that you are exactly a true mumbaikar.Let me tell you a reality that i have lived in both the cities for more than 10 years.Now i am based in Delhi.My wife is also a mumbaikar.Things that a Mumbaikar raise to degarde delhi is about its people.But you mumbaikars are not devtas too.Imagine a a community who doesn't care for Annji's national protest,only care for earning money?Are you people Indians or Aliens?Imagine a city in which a person hardly knows their neighbours?Imagine a city where there is hell of a crime but it never gets highlited.Delhi has more of a media attention than mumbai thats why a single burglary is highlighted nation wide.My wife tells me how your people take advantage of crowded places especially trains,and they can touch a women any where.Thats why mumbai girls are so rude and aggressive.I myself saw many a times a women slapping people on platforms.
    The other reality is that you people cannot accept another city beating you.How can you even compare these two cities now?See infrastructure,Living conditions,Cost of living.If not perfect but delhi is far ahead of you.
    Another trait of you mumbaikars.Its been more than 10 years that metro train hasn't yet started in your city whereas it has crossed delhi and reached NCR.This means that you people and your administration is more corrupt than us..Then why talk high about you?So please accept the reality and shred your ego..this will help you to asses your problems in a better sense..

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    1. hey kryon m disagree wid u....... m in mumbai past 20 yrs n i love dis city..... n being girl ma experience regarding 'taking advantage of crowded area ' north indians n all 'bhaiyas' takes advantage of such things they dont have manners.. or they dont have sis n mom in their houses... n questioning abt ur wife, ur wife never traveled in ladies compartment kya. tell her dat no man is allowed 2 enter into ladies compartment of da train... n u talk abt another trait dat we dont hv metros in aur city bt local me travel karana tum logon ke bas ki baat nahi... n we dont support anna just coz he hv some personal advantage over dat

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    2. Such an immature comment by Kryon!

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    3. I agree..I did not bother to respond to such gibberish by immatures

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  26. @kryon
    i agree with you

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  27. Contrary to your observation, Delhi has been the worst city in the world that I have ever visited. Delhiites are aggressive, political, beastly (with women) & thugs.

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  28. Hey kapil, I loved your article and especially the comments/debate that followed... A lot of truth in what you have written, but I must say you have been partial to Mumbai!!:-))

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    1. After all it's my city..Had to be a lil biased..lol

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  30. @Kryon
    I do not know what you were smoking while commenting on this blog.
    But i want whatever it is.

    :P

    Peace

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    1. I Like that...
      I want whatever you were smoking...lol

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    2. @Arppit Gupta : Amazing, what a reply!
      "But I want whatever it is"! Hahaha! LMAO!

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  31. You wont belvv but i dont care.

    A pure and honest delhiites.

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  32. Do not know much about mumbaikars , but delhi is a city where one smiles , laughs , fights , loves , cry , roams around , enjoys the life his/her fullest.....I visited mumbai few times and found people are lost in their own world , they have no time for anyone , no time for life , family and friends , they do not laugh , share , they do not talk much.

    May be I am wrong about mumbaikers but giving my thought about delhites and love to be in this city.

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  33. I know this post is around 3 years old now and I know about it only because a friend of mine shared it on Facebook. Its not that Mumbaikars don't have time for anything in life, its just that they learn how to manage it according to their priorities. We always make time for people we really like even though it might be past nine in the evening but hey, it's the city that never sleeps for a reason. So if you're going down to Bombay to meet a friend of yours and the given day is a weekday, expect to meet him/her only later in the day and make sure you let them know you're coming a while back (They will still meet you, period).

    Another point I'd raise is that they are very helpful. I've never been denied a request for directions but you must also understand that you should have a popular landmark at the tip of your tongue. Its not easy for everyone to explain to a newbie and some of them just don't want to take the trouble. So be prepared with at least some information of the locality and you'll be sure to have a few others around you jumping in to help you out, with a smile. Remember to say thank you, bhaiya/didi/uncle/aunty. See them again and you might just be lucky to flash that smile at you yet again.

    Plus, no one in Bombay has the time to pick a fight, unless they're stupid of course which again depends on the person. I don't speak for any political factions here but everyone else will else will just be going their way as long as you don't do anything to provoke them at which, their ego wouldn't be hurt as bad as say, someone from Delhi (I've seen this way too many times and I study in Manipal, not in Bombay so I'm away most of the time and they just seem to be the same everywhere sparing a few) even when it might actually be their fault. So, using an analogy of the B2B traffic during peak times, you forgive a small accident because you knew it would have happened someday, be glad that no one was hurt except your wallet (read ego) and move on. Pretty sure no one will remember in a crowd anyway

    Finally, Bombay has its own charm and I'm pretty sure every city you were brought up in does but there's nothing quite as mesmerising as driving through the street past dinner time (Its safe, unlike a few other places I know, hmm). The lights, the stars (here, the ones in the sky) and the life will make you never want to leave and find every other city boring. I'm sure everyone's driven down Marine Drive/Sea Face/Sea Link and just for once in the day, taken it slow. Couple it with that second point of mine and you'll go to bed being grateful to have ever settled there and that scratch on your car won't even cross your mind.

    Its not that difficult to appreciate the beauty of this place. Cheers

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  34. I have lived in Mumbai and areas surrounding Delhi. Had dealt with people from both places. I am from some rural part of Maharashtra who studied in Mumbai and used to live in hostel. Classmates from Mumbai would travel come to college after hour or two hours journey and would be in top of class. Very hardworking. But found some of them bit selfish or I can say over cautious. They kind of got used to hard life of Mumbai. People from Delhi - extremely selfish people for whom self promotion and satisfying self ego is most important. Can go to any extent for 'phayada' in careers. Very rough in talking. Always had bad experiences with most of them. Will exaggerate everything. Every sentence they speak is for self-promotion or putting someone down. I rarely found them compassionate about others.

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  35. Thank you for sharing this information and Very good looking blog.very informative article.
    laxmi nagar restaurant, indian food,chinese food

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  36. Please don't pick on our Delhi friends like that. I'm a Bihari and have suffered terribly in Mumbai. I'm a software engineer, a well-earning and well-behaved guy not your typical bhaiyya but still they mistreat me. In Mumbai, everyone is only concerned about competition and eliminating others for promotion in their respective fields. While in Mumbai if u r cautious enough you can lead a fun life

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  37. Sorry in Delhi you can lead a fun life

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